Satanist respond to Ten Commandments monument in Oklahoma wanting a pentagram display
A privately funded Ten Commandments monuments was authorized in 2009, added to the Oklahoma Capitol grounds last year, may now be joined by a monument submitted by a Satanic group.
The Satanic Temple in New York contacted the Capitol’s Preservation Commission to donate a monument, planning to submit possible designs this month, says Lucien Greaves, a spokesman for the temple.
A Satan Temple has responded to leaders in Oklahoma seeking to add their own monument next to the Ten Commandments
The “VOTE SATAN” sign before it was cut down photo supplied by Luigi Bellaviste
“We believe that all monuments should be in good taste and consistent with community standards,” Greaves wrote in letter to state officials. “Our proposed monument, as an homage to the historic/literary Satan, will certainly abide by these guidelines.”
A pentagram and an interactive display for children were part of the early designs, which if approved, Greaves says will cost approximately $20,000.
Mike Ritze, the Republican who headed the movement and funding for the Ten Commandments display was noted by the group in their statement.
“He’s helping a satanic agenda grow more than any of us possibly could,” Greaves said. “You don’t walk around and see too many satanic temples around, but when you open the door to public spaces for us, that’s when you’re going to see us.”
“I think these Satanists are a different group,” Rep. Bobby Cleveland said. “You put them under the nut category,” he added dismissing the notion of Satanists actually erecting a monument at the Capitol.
Brady Henderson, the legal director for ACLU Oklahoma, said if state officials allow one type of religious expression, they must allow alternative forms of expression, although he said a better solution might be to allow none at all on state property.
“We would prefer to see Oklahoma’s government officials work to faithfully serve our communities and improve the lives of Oklahomans instead of erecting granite monuments to show us all how righteous they are,” Henderson said. “But if the Ten Commandments, with its overtly Christian message, is allowed to stay at the Capitol, the Satanic Temple’s proposed monument cannot be rejected because of its different religious viewpoint.”
Thoughtful piece ! I am thankful for the specifics ! Does anyone know where my assistant would be able to get ahold of a template a form copy to work with ?
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Maybe the US Marines and Army can ask all the upper ranked Satanist subscribing officers to construct an idol to ‘ole lucifer.
I really don’t know which is worse- watching armed people praying to their Christian god before going and blowing peoples heads off with an M-16 in a foreign country they have NO idea why they are there (Iraq and Afghanistan) OR ?
Those soldiers who are openly Satanists – summoning whatever they think they are summoning before going and blowing peoples heads off with an M-16.
What’s most interesting ? is the Moonies ? they manufacture M-16’s – now THERE is a strange one… You have a religion that makes their own weapons…
Poor Oklahoma…
I think we need to put a monumental idol to the Church of the flying Spaghetti Monster.
The PROBLEM here is – if it’s STATE or Federal property ?
And you are promoting religion ?
Then you saying OK to a theocracy.
Now – Afghanistan was facing a theocracy. Egypt just did, and we saw the end result of that and GOOD RIDDANCE to Morsi. Algeria ? theocracy – Somalia ? we see this over and over again…
Seems the places in the world that have the MOST problems ?
are theocracies
Now – Saudi Arabia ? TRICKY there… that’s BEYOND a theocracy.
With China’s move on the Moon ?
Saud’s can return to living in tents – once they don’t have any more oil money.
The Beverley Hillbillies will reach it’s LAST episode with fusion…
Of course, Jed Clamped never funded arms and insurgents into Syria or Iraq or Afghanistan or Pakistan…
Now – let me get this right…
US LOVES Saudi Arabia – but Saudi Arabia WITHOUT QUESTION – was paying for suicide bombers and IED’s for roads to kill US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Just WHY IS IT ? (I know MANY answers that fit here – some not legally able to be shared) that US can’t break it’s ties to Saudi Arabia ?
A FAR FAR FAR more promising optic AND trajector for United States would be to establish more ties with China…
For it is China that will leave everyone at a GAS pump – jaw dropped- mouth agape – going ‘huhhhh ? Whaaaa ? ‘
As they see 20 cents taking then 200 miles if they go electric with the surplus of energy the world will soon have – JUST UNDER 10 years is what I get out of China.
And I really don’t give a damn ? about national security here ?
This is a NEW ENERGY RESOURCE FOR ALL HUMANITY
China doesn’t HAVE RIGHT to keep it to themselves.
And any of this trickle down invented terrorism (Amazing, terrorists never hit China or Canada – WONDER WHY THAT IS) ?
ENDS – besides, The Dulles brothers ? ESPECIALLY ALLEN – can GF himself on ‘classified’ system of information, for… What nation has a right to claim privacy at the same time denying it to it’s citizens ?
I JUST realized that a few weeks ago… And I can’t find an answer to that.
The nation does NOT come first – the PEOPLE come first.
You get THAT right – and we have a future BRIGHT AS THE SUN.
those DAAAAAYAMED DULLES BROTHERS…. Really cost the people of the United States and MANY countries- nearly a century lost.
NEARLY a century lost on stuck on oil profits.
6 of the top 10 corporations of the world – OIL – of course Walmart JUST beat Exxon and Petro China this year. ARAMCO is #7 this year – Arab American oil corporation.
Bye bye to all of them with fusion
HELLO a BRIGHTER – MORE PRODUCTIVE – world to the next generations. Just THINK of the robotics revolution coming with REAL CHEAP ELECTRICITY…
I’ve HAD it with these deadbeat losers who hide behind national security.
PEOPLE come first- NATION is ABSTRACT – people are REAL.
GET THAT RIGHT ? and we might have a WONDERFUL FUTURE TOGETHER.
I’m done here. Off to go water the plants.
Seems that Chinese Easter Bunny is going to hijack all of Bill Casey’s good hard work in the middle east for oil.
In fact, in just THREE YEARS – Easter 2017 – China will have a FUNCTIONAL mining operation on the moon.
NOW ? how is it ? Chinese intelligence failed on keeping that contained ? or US and British intelligence failed on picking it up ?
It will shake the world economies however ?
We will exit out of this dark dark dark era where US foreign policy in the Middle East is anything BUT a renting of mercenaries for the oil cartels.
Either way- Helium 3 fusion offers children of next generations a far far safer and peaceful world.
Have you ever stopped to consider ? The connections between the Contras ? Reagan’s Freedom Fighters – no, not the 1951 Nazi Freedom Fighters Reagan and Nixon took part in, the Contras… and WHY Reagan just HAD TO ARM THEM ?
Seems the UBS banking data shows a NEW TRAIL of just what Bill Casey, Ollie North, Reagan, Bush and TOO MANY TO NAME – SALE SALE SALE
Buy one get TWO FREE
Billy Blaze here –
It’s the ANTI-CORRUPTION MOP for CORRUPT INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES SEEKING PERSONAL PROFIT (Bill Casey) on ARMS to Iran.
Who would have thought, US CIA was actually ARMING IRAN.
And now ?
That daaaaayaaamed Chinese Easter Bunny (GOOD LUCK MI6 – you missed the boat you LOSERS) is going to END the oil era.
2022 TOPS.
There is FAR MORE going on with China and the Moon right now than most know.
And while I don’t agree with China’s borderline militaristic nation state ideology ? And I do think the people WILL probably succeed in toppling the corrupt military leaders ? I DO support that Chinese Easter Bunny – and frankly ? it’s SAD that the GREED for profits from oil – and those 200 BILLION BARRELS sitting in Kazakhstan – that’s 20 TRILLION at $100 a barrel folks – that’s BUY the next 5 PRESIDENCY TERMS in the US for 20 trillion – AND the ENTIRE SENATE AND HOUSE – in fact, that’s buy EVERY RESIDENTIAL and COMMERCIAL mortgage in the US – WAS only 12 trillion pre abuses from investment banks- SO SIMILAR to Bush deregulating the Savings and Loans – so the CIA and organized crime could launder launder and LAUNDER SOME MORE.
Sorry folks – UBS DATA is just that – UBS data.
And Maybe it’s a BAAAAYAD IDEA ? Bill Casey had North LAUNDER MONEY through Belgium and Swiss banks ?
Not MY problem.
China is bringing us a NEW ERA for humanity –
FUSION on Earth – they ALREADY HAVE a working prototype – they don’t NEED the project in Europe – they are there for IMAGE ONLY.
And GO CHINA in this case.
At least you are seeking a CLEAN – RELIABLE – virtually UNLIMITED energy resource solution – and ALL that money Casey made on arming Iran ? or take 1953- putting in a pupper ? Only in 1954 do we see 50% of Iranian oil goes to Western oil corporations, I THINK we can DEDUCE just what THAAAYAAT was about… Along with A LOT MORE US FOREIGN policy in the Middle East…
With oil gone ? Everyone in process of firing a bullet – or the #1 kill zone for CIA predator drones ? Kazakhstan ? ALSO – coincidentally THE LARGEST oil reserve on the planet untapped currently ? can all just look JAW DROPPED when oil PLUNGES.
And any economies attached to oil ? will suffer too.
HOWEVER- Like fire was to neolithic ancestors ? Fusion will be to future generations on this planet.
With oil gone ? I sense ‘terrorism’ will just evaporate. No more western oil corporations in Pakistan ? Afghanistan ? Hey- chances are those NATIVES will leave the US alone.
Granted, they really should immunize for polio – but – unfortunately the CIA used the vaccination teams and now they don’t trust anyone – they are just scared and confused.
So sad to see polio on the rise again.
But – look up people ! To the Moon – China’s Moon.
If it wasn’t for GREED for oil profits ? We’d already HAVE fusion in the United States – well – as a nationalized energy solution and we would have provided jobs building the new needed energy grid that will be required to handle ALL THAT DAAAAYYAMHED CHEAP LECTRICITY !
I say- stop adding stars on the wall at Langley ? and START adding more stars to the flag. UNITED MORE STATES – UNITE TERRITORIES on Europe – CARRY THIS IDEA of UNITING FURTHER – EVEN… Dare I say it… UNITE CHINA – probably hard once they blow away oil economies and have a REAL ADVANCEMENT for humanity… bigger than any advancement for humanity – EVER… FUSION.
FUSION takes us to the stars.
FUSION can be used to power co2 collectors.
But I digress
F you Bill Casey and the horse you rode in on –
I don’t see you and BushaRama with any power now JACKASSES.
PUSH IT and I’ll show you a media war you CAN’T WIN
2.3 Billion smart phones now with server push technology- hahahahahhaahahah….
Poor GlobalDispatch
wondering What the HELL is this ?
I do apologize for choosing you as a venue
it’s not entirely fair
your staff will get some calls though
I suggest you assist in every way you can.
Porter Goss is a MURDERER
LIBEL ?
NOT LIBEL if you can PROVE IT.
Now – let’s EXAMINE putting a MURDERER IN AS DCI at CIA ?
Let’s JUST EXAMINE THAT
NO ONE ELSE is running this message.
this isn’t your AVERAGE EVERY DAY accusation.
NO ONE ELSE is running this message.
ONE TAPE
FROM POST HELMS ERA CIA
ENDS IT ALL
MAKES YOU WONDER WHAT IS ON THAT TAPE
We’ll be LUCKY to HAVE an election 2016.
WHAT A TOUGH CHOICE EH DOJ ?
ACT ? OR DON’T ACT ?
My oh my…
aren’t we staring EYE TO EYE NOW !
Ashcroft REALLY SET THE MARK HIGH AT DOJ EH ?
LulzE0Rs
BEFORE the DOJ acts – or the CIA reacts ?
I SUGGEST BOTH
consider just WHERE and WHAT Porter Goss was doing on Jan 19th, 1971.
That’s all
You nail THAT DAY
and hey – you’ll JOIN ME.
I don’t SUPPORT MURDER
How about this ONE COMMANDMENT
No nation shall claim rights to privacy proxy of national security while denying it’s citizens rights to privacy.
Or this one…
US CIA ? GO F YOURSELVES – GAME OVER – TIME TO FACE YOUR MAKER – Only he’s ALMOST DEAD – however ? I’ll SETTLE FOR INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT FOR THE REST.
NO ONE – has the RIGHT
to HOLD OVER ANYONE ELSE
OR HIDE
WHILE PRIVATE INTENT EXISTS FOR A POWER GRAB
I COULD end you on Libya
I WILL END YOU ON IRAN CONTRA
It’s NOT ABOUT STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS DOJ
It’s ABOUT JUSTICE
and the CIA
AND WHAT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN
WARNING DOJ
WE HAVE THE GEHLEN CACHE
NAMES – ADDRESSES
YES – THAT IS RIGHT
NAMES – ADDRESSES
YES – GO AHEAD
MAKE OUR DAY
WE OWN YOU
You just don’t KNOW IT YET
LEST
You want those NAMES – ADDRESSES LET LOOSE
Hey – LIST ?
DISTRIBUTED GLOBALLY
Ah SUCKS to NATIONAL SECURITY
Why ? WHO LET ALL THOSE NAZI’S IN EH ?
NATIONAL SECURITY MY …
YOU don’t EVEN GET RIGHT to CLAIM NATION STATE
After what WE RUN THROUGH THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMIANAL COURT
at LEAST 38 people at US Department of State will be doing LIFE TERM IN PRISON when WE ARE DONE
CIA ? 8
DOJ ? 11
SO FAR
NUMBERS KEEP GOING UP.
Could you imagine a praise to Allah addition to he Oklahoma Capitol ? say – March 2002 ?
Why ? The sentiment would be anti-American ?
and yet ?
How did that EVER ‘set’ in ? that America was somehow ? Christian ?
or PRO – ANY religion ?
How did we get SO CLOSE to a theocracy.
I remember when Frank Zappa was dying – one of his last comments was in 1987 ‘The Bushes are taking us right down the pipe of a theocracy’
Little did Frank know – in 2000 ?
After Bushes PASTOR in 1999 told him – and you can watch this on video on youtube ‘You are chosen by God to be President of the United States’ ?
Little did Frank know
The Republican party in 1988 would USE the Christian right to get elected, and go figure – in 2004 ? They used the Islamic right as a 180 degree opposition to get elected TOO ! The Vote Christian – not Islam vote…
Now – clever Rove in 2000 ? used the Islamic right for the vote AND in 2004. How did Rove manage to pull THAT off ?
A WHOLE lot doesn’t matter when you look back at what WE KNOW OWN – UBS – and THOSE VERY ACCOUNTS North used- for the Contras
Which have NOT BEEN MADE PUBLIC
and WILL
DESTROY the UNITED STATES CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY AT CORE
Have a nice day
IRAN CONTRA –
Libya –
and what the hell
CHUCK IN GUATEMALA TOO
NO NATION CAN CLAIM PRIVACY RIGHTS
AT THE SAME TIME
DENYING CITIZENS RIGHTS TO PRIVACY
ITS ALL OVER
you just don’t REALIZE IT YET
DATABASE BREACHES ? OFFSHORED – KINDA LIKE CIA’S UBS ACCOUNTS !
“‘But if the Ten Commandments, with its overtly Christian message…'” That’s nice, but the Ten Commandments are also part of Judaism and have a historical role in Islam. Certainly the religious representation argument is a valid one, but come on now. How ignorant can some people be…
I am here for a VERY SHORT TIME
CLEAR THE POSTS
OR KISS THEM GOODBYE
I CAN NAIL PORTER WITH ISI IN PAKISTAN August
2001
AND I CAN PROVIDE CONTENT.
When you see a chance
TAKE IT
GLOBAL DISPATCH
I can EVEN TELL YOU WHAT PORTER ORDERED FOR LUNCH – WITH ACCOMPANYING MP3 AUDIO
AS TO ISI IN PAKISTAN August
NOT EVEN THE US CIA HAS THIS
DOJ should be SHUTTERING IN FEAR
YES
IT WAS RECORDED – SORRY ASHCROFT – you no longer mean anything short of ? A NICE CELL IS ARRANGED FOR YOU.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM SITTING ON.
I wonder if the Global Dispath has attorneys CAPABLE
of a BREACH to the US CIA
SO BAD ?
Only an EXTORTED DOJ won’t be able to sit by
and watch.
Let us return to 1973
and Porter Goss
TRUST ME – NO ONE ELSE HAS THIS.
What is the common denominator in religions ?
I think the winning message is – we all derive from the same causal spark.
I see Islam respecting Judaism and Christianity in this.
However ?
I sit far from these lazy readers of yesterdays news.
In fact ?
Where some say a super nova is the END of a star ?
Where of only THREE basic star types that exist ?
Where only ONE super nova is capable of producing matter beyond hydrogen ?
I now think – and this is something I evolved only two days ago…
I now think the star super nova ? is not the END of the star ?
I think it is the BEGINNING – the BIRTH.
That is to say – when a star explodes ? Come on – the word ‘explode’ compared to the grand cosmic scheme of things ?
It is not explode…
It is release … it is BEYOND description
but WHATEVER IT IS when a star explodes ?
I now purport – this is not the END of the life of a star
but only the beginning.
IN fact, ever atom, of every reader of this post ?
is made up of – not the DEATH of stars
but the BIRTH of stars
and in that ?
I subscribe to Astrophysics over religion.
I’m willing to invite challenge to the Ancient Greeks too here – and say- maybe Astro is not proper.
How SAD is it – we witness dying roots in confined pots
LIMITED the growth of the plant
with these nonsensical perturbations culturally.
Where culture is but … NONE OTHER than … SHARED meaning.
This ’12 or 10 commandments’ IDOL ?
Stands to leave one GASPING
for AN IDEA
that maybe we don’t NEED an outside reminder
for what is to be ultimately derived from within
The 10 commandments ? Let’s look at things for how they were…
People NEEDED GUIDANCE
and I STILL question – gnosticism – ALL is within VS
the Church TELLING YOU
How it’s gonna be for you – you do NOT GET TO LIVE FREE
YOU DO NOT PASS GO
YOU ADHERE TO THESE RULES
And then there is the CIA in Guatemala.
And Kissinger and Porter Goss’s KILL TEAMS
TELLING THOSE PEOPLE
HOW it’s gonna be.
PLACE THE PENTAGRAM NEXT TO THE CROSS
You have my blessings –
and I DO HOPE the Ilamists post a statue of Liberty BEFORE it was ALTERED – the one with the woman wearing a veil.
I have concluded that the Christian fundamentalists and the Satanists are quite one and the same.
For example, under Satanism ? Crowley promoted one rule or one law “Do as thou wilt”
now, go into any prison B yard and find the pedophiles. They will be the ones with the Bibles in their hands to tell you that Jesus Christ died for their sins and they are ‘saved’, and can pretty much otherwise ? Do as they wilt.
In other words ? The MORE someone NEEDS Jesus ? the more inclined I am to increment the body count when I ask where the bodies are buried.
What is this group really saying with the Ten Commandments ? Is it a convenience ? In case you forget ? Or is it a promotion of a specific religion in a country that supports freedom of religion.
Alas, give the Satanists their Pentagram and the Islamists whatever they want, the original Statue of Liberty was an Islamic woman with a veil- it was changed. Maybe let the Islamists put up the original statue of liberty next to the Ten Commandments.
All zoo manuals to me.
are we a free and equal country or not? if their monument follows guidelines, why shouldn’t they have one? and if every religion wants one too, so be it. the christians opened this door, and it shall now stay open until it is decided that no religion gets public space for a monument. right? this is still a free and equal country, right? we do no oppress religions here, right?
The Constitution does not favor religion. Religion has killed every nation it invades. (There is not one successful Catholic or Muslim nation on earth.). Get rid of religion and let the nation survive.